Suggestion ... to remove the list of players.

[BinhoGuedes]

Friends, I would like to share a thought and also a suggestion for it to be adopted on the server, if possible.

As the growth of the server, I think it is interesting to take some attitudes that can contribute to the growth and interference of the game.

I say about the possibility of deleting the list of active players on the server. Today I see that it is not an attraction, for the following reasons:

1 - If you know who are the people who are active in the game, you end up taking the courage of players to venture into Fel, because of specific players online (I mean, PK);

2 - For those who also do PVP it gets kind of annoying, as you end up logging on and hoping that a certain player is online and is not;

3 - This action creates a stimulus for people to venture more into the game and spawns. Today I feel that the name of certain online players, causes fear in some adventurers, where honestly it is one of the coolest parts of the game.

Just a thought that I would like to share and collect opinion to promote the game and mainly, within the possible implementation. I think at least keeping the amount of players online and very interesting.

 

[Dan]

Friends, I would like to share a thought and also a suggestion for it to be adopted on the server, if possible.

As the growth of the server, I think it is interesting to take some attitudes that can contribute to the growth and interference of the game.

I say about the possibility of deleting the list of active players on the server. Today I see that it is not an attraction, for the following reasons:

1 - If you know who are the people who are active in the game, you end up taking the courage of players to venture into Fel, because of specific players online (I mean, PK);

2 - For those who also do PVP it gets kind of annoying, as you end up logging on and hoping that a certain player is online and is not;

3 - This action creates a stimulus for people to venture more into the game and spawns. Today I feel that the name of certain online players, causes fear in some adventurers, where honestly it is one of the coolest parts of the game.

Just a thought that I would like to share and collect opinion to promote the game and mainly, within the possible implementation. I think at least keeping the amount of players online and very interesting.

This is absolutely something that can get looked at but I will give this one some time so everyone has a chance to voice their opinions/perspectives.

We can code it to simply say the number online or possibly the ability to hide/show oneself on a global list.

 

[BooshBooshBoosh]

I vote to keep it. It's nice to see who's online. If your play habits cause patterns that people can easily track then it's up to you change your habits or welcome visitors.

 

[Miral]

just make it so it doesn't come up automatically, but keep the [players command so you can choose to see who's on online, you need to keep using the command to update the list anyways

 

[Hiru]

I agree with Binho. It's nice to see the number of players online, but I do not see how it would be beneficial to know WHO is online, this influences the action in felluca.

 

[kkz]

it's nice to know when your friends are online, but for that there is the global chat in game and discord. knowing who is online, eliminates the surprise factor of the felluca trap.
One suggestion is just to let the number of online players show up, and not all the nicknames.

 

[Meireffer]

I would agree to this idea on one condition: using rail bots to check spawns will be perma-bannable offense for all accounts connected to same IP.

 

[Omalley]

I agree with Binho. It's nice to see the number of players online, but I do not see how it would be beneficial to know WHO is online, this influences the action in felluca.

And how much "Action" is there in Fel? I would be curious to know just how much of the community actually goes to Fel ona regular basis.. I think that when a new player logs in, he/she see's the list and would be more likely to stay and play when they see all the active players on, they may even see a friend from another server.. I would hate to see anything change based on PvP, if PvP is only a small part of the bigger picture.

 

[StigiBengBeng]

Maybe instead of online list, there should be a list of players active in the last 24h?

 

[proko]

Friends, I would like to share a thought and also a suggestion for it to be adopted on the server, if possible.

As the growth of the server, I think it is interesting to take some attitudes that can contribute to the growth and interference of the game.

I say about the possibility of deleting the list of active players on the server. Today I see that it is not an attraction, for the following reasons:

1 - If you know who are the people who are active in the game, you end up taking the courage of players to venture into Fel, because of specific players online (I mean, PK);

2 - For those who also do PVP it gets kind of annoying, as you end up logging on and hoping that a certain player is online and is not;

3 - This action creates a stimulus for people to venture more into the game and spawns. Today I feel that the name of certain online players, causes fear in some adventurers, where honestly it is one of the coolest parts of the game.

Just a thought that I would like to share and collect opinion to promote the game and mainly, within the possible implementation. I think at least keeping the amount of players online and very interesting.

I agree with you, It's kinda annoying that. There's no "emotion" to do a spawn in fell when you know there's no PK online or vice versa.
We don't need to check spawns nowadays, just check [players.
I don't see any benefit to know who is online, we already have a global chat in-game and discord/forum for communication. Nobody when need help check [players to ask something on global, they just ask.

 

[BooshBooshBoosh]

I agree with you, It's kinda annoying that. There's no "emotion" to do a spawn in fell when you know there's no PK online or vice versa.
We don't need to check spawns nowadays, just check [players.
I don't see any benefit to know who is online, we already have a global chat in-game and discord/forum for communication. Nobody when need help check [players to ask something on global, they just ask.

As long as guilds run bots to watch spawns the online player list should be a feature. I agree with Mei on this one.

 

[proko]

As long as guilds run bots to watch spawns the online player list should be a feature. I agree with Mei on this one.

is It happening in trammel? because in Fell I know every stealthier who check spawn and none is a bot

 

[BooshBooshBoosh]

is It happening in trammel? because in Fell I know every stealthier who check spawn and none is a bot

You definitely can't say with 100% certainty that every stealther isn't a bot.

 

[proko]

You definitely can't say with 100% certainty that every stealther isn't a bot.

well, If u know someone and it isn't allowed just report that

 

[Phil]

[Players is a benefit to those who aren't in a zerg guild to see which stealthers/pk's that are on to know if it is relatively safe to do a spawn.
If pvpers want more action in fel maybe they shouldn't camp every single spawn 24/7 and raid whoever goes to fel champ as soon as they start a champ spawn.
Little common sense goes a long way. If you allow people to do champs for a while more people would be comfortable doing spawns and then you might have a little more fel activity.
Trying to hide the fact that you are on and making it more difficult to see who is on would restrict more activity and more than likely limit even further who goes to fel.
So I vote to leave it. Let the few pks who don't want to be known buy a name change token if its that important to you.

 

[Meireffer]

well, If u know someone and it isn't allowed just report that

That's why I proposed to perma ban all accounts asociated to rail bot character. Even if it would only work in fell. Because it's not disallowed currently.
But since you're sure noone is using such bots, you would be perfectly fine with punishment like this. Right? It's not like someone is running rail script written in Orion that counts how many candles are active on altar, what characters got spotted near altar and send this info to discord channel. Right? Thats unthinkable! Who would do that!

 

[BooshBooshBoosh]

just make it so it doesn't come up automatically, but keep the [players command so you can choose to see who's on online, you need to keep using the command to update the list anyways

I think this is the best idea. Leave the feature but force people to check it manually.

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That's why I proposed to perma ban all accounts asociated to rail bot character. Even if it would only work in fell. Because it's not disallowed currently.
But since you're sure noone is using such bots, you would be perfectly fine with punishment like this. Right? It's not like someone is running rail script written in Orion that counts how many candles are active on altar, what characters got spotted near altar and send this info to discord channel. Right? Thats unthinkable! Who would do that!

We know that BRK and doob use these scripts and they're the two guilds that want the list removed.......not too hard to see the angle they're pushing here.

 

[kkz]

if you search for "rail" on orion´s disc, u will find who made a "zilion" types of that script....
LOL!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[proko]

I think this is the best idea. Leave the feature but force people to check it manually.

Post automatically merged: May 18, 2021

We know that BRK and doob use these scripts and they're the two guilds that want the list removed.......not to
hard to see the angle they're pushing here.

We don't need to use scripts, it's easier than you think. You are just guessing something like u did before

Like a said, we just use [players and see if there's someone online who can potentially do a champion spawn.

 

[proko]

[Players is a benefit to those who aren't in a zerg guild to see which stealthers/pk's that are on to know if it is relatively safe to do a spawn.
If pvpers want more action in fel maybe they shouldn't camp every single spawn 24/7 and raid whoever goes to fel champ as soon as they start a champ spawn.
Little common sense goes a long way. If you allow people to do champs for a while more people would be comfortable doing spawns and then you might have a little more fel activity.
Trying to hide the fact that you are on and making it more difficult to see who is on would restrict more activity and more than likely limit even further who goes to fel.
So I vote to leave it. Let the few pks who don't want to be known buy a name change token if its that important to you.

That's not the point, when we gonna raid we log our pvp's character(pk's) in the last second.
My guild have 4 player's, I don't consider it a "Zerg".
I believe if there's no [players you will force who wanna raid a spawn actually go check the spawns.

just make it so it doesn't come up automatically, but keep the [players command so you can choose to see who's on online, you need to keep using the command to update the list anyways

People have hotkey with this command