PVP spellcasting (wall of stone)

[Noah]

Dan(Tasanar)Today at 12:34 PM
UO has not really addressed "balancing" their pvp in quite some time. With the advent of all the new clients and such, if someone wants to start a discussion about it on the forums, we can start discussing and looking at things. 15 tiles does seem to be a bit much. 12 for example seems more reasonable when compared to other range mechanics.
[12:34 PM]
We can freely talk about whatever here too, but unless it goes on the forums and everyone has a chance to speak up it won't happen.


So lets open this up for discussion...
I tested today and it is the same on OSI 15 tiles is what wall of stone can be casted.
I tend to agree with Dan on the 12 range, maybe even 10. it may be ok with 15 tiles on OSI, but nowadays with scripts its pretty ridiculous that someone such as Sayago who runs speed hacks and can cast 15 tiles away, its getting out of hand.

 

[Prado]

1- You can't say what you can't prove. Nor sayago nor any of BRK is using any wall script or speed hack, that is a fact. lf you say it you MUST prove.
2- Imo, 15 range is good, as you said you have tested on osi and figured it out that the range is 15.
3- If is to change something that is already working nice, lets change the bow range from 10 to 15, or 10 to 5, or put healing stone like it was before, what l mean with this is why change things that are nice ? just because you are feeling in disadvantage ? cause this is the only thing i can think of you to open this discuss topic, cause you know we use wall stone at pvp...
It is like die to flame strike and ask to nerf the damage...

 

[FireFly]

3- If is to change something that is already working nice, lets change the bow range from 10 to 15, or 10 to 5, or put healing stone like it was before, what l mean with this is why change things that are nice ?

That moment when you mention some exploit and broke mechanic and call it nice working.. (heal stone)

 

[Noah]

Comparing OSI to Heritage is apples and oranges. (Or cockroaches to grasshoppers so you can easily understand it). OSI doesn't use third party CUO to run scripts in pvp. That Im aware of.
We're quite aware of the speedhacks that Sayago and several of you use. Orion and others. When the time is right, we'll prove that as well. Videos and pics! Good day...

 

[Prado]

Well i can see that this topic is not to discuss about server changes, or to try to make the server as good as it is already, clearly a post to point fingers to BRK and try to justify when you lose a battle ! when you guys want to talk about how to make the server as good as already is we talk. cya

PS. l will wait for you to prove what you are saying ! print on this post just to make sure you prove. Cause its been a loooooooooong time you and your friends are saying this and yet i didn't see any proof.

 

[sayago]

This post doesn't even make sense, there is nothing wrong with the wall spell and its range 15 tiles. As far as I know this server is being built based on UO official servers, with some unique changes like events and stuff, imo this attempt to change the spell is nonsense.

About the speedhacking accusation, we are currently using ClassicUO, just as many on the server are, including some OC members I think, so if you think its a client side issue you can test it yourself and talk to Dan, a lot of clients are available to use w his permission.

Other than that u should make those cheating accusations in private since it seens just like an emotional bitching and based on nothing, its bad for the server and new players

 

[Vander Nars]

This post doesn't even make sense, there is nothing wrong with the wall spell and its range 15 tiles. As far as I know this server is being built based on UO official servers, with some unique changes like events and stuff, imo this attempt to change the spell is nonsense.

About the speedhacking accusation, we are currently using ClassicUO, just as many on the server are, including some OC members I think, so if you think its a client side issue you can test it yourself and talk to Dan, a lot of clients are available to use w his permission.

Other than that u should make those cheating accusations in private since it seens just like an emotional bitching and based on nothing, its bad for the server and new players

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Do you support removing target tile relative? This will disable any wall script that attempts to place the wall in front of the target without the player having to do it by hand.

Post automatically merged: Sep 10, 2020

The only talk that matters is restricting Target tile relative, this will stop people from spamming perfectly placed walls in front of people. Any other change is not gonna fix that huge issue.

 

[sayago]

I do support it, i'm not sure if its possible. It would probaly get the game better and stop random accusations

 

[Noah]

What happened to your original comment @Prado I see you took out the part where you admitted to cheating... Proves my point about BRK doesn't it.

 

[Prado]

what ?? U dont need to prove nothing to me gather your proofs and show it to Dan. No more.

 

[Noah]

show videos of you guys pvping with your full screen and see how that goes! dont crop out the exploits and the speed hack clients you use! I had the proof in this post until you edited your admittance to using cheats... Say no more cheater, we all know BRK too well.

 

[Prado]

Say what u want Noah ! Gather your proofs and show it to Dan. No more.

 

[sayago]

@Noah

We already told you, stop w random accusations and go find something else than doing stupid comments

Video w full screen:

 

[Vander Nars]

Noah ur derailing your own tread with the cheating accusations, even if someone gets nailed to a cross over a speed hack it wont fix whats wrong with walls/teleport-toggle special scripts. Yal never gonna agree with each other on that front and frankly without some hard cold proof dan wont take action either. We need to focus on getting dan convinced to look into ways to restrict overly abusive scripts.

 

[Noah]

I agree @Vander Nars . I was merely pointing out the fact that Prado deleted his own post where he admitted to using cheats.

@sayago you have no authority to tell me to stop random accusations. You are a nobody. no authority, and youre own guildmate admitted to it in the post he deleted. So its not an accusation, as much as a fact now.
You're guild has no credibility and none of you have skill without 12 others holding your hands...

Until you have something useful to say about the fact that this wall of stone needs to be discussed/altered, keep your burrito hole shut please.. thanks buh bye!

 

[Prado]