Poll - Should VvV once again be restricted to Felucca?

[Dan]

We are not changing anything, simply looking to gage the current shards' opinions on this.

 

[Mrriots]

I don't partake in the action, but I have no problem seeing some of it right now, maybe if we had 1000 players

 

[Pappy]

Why isn't "I don't give a shit" not an option for the poll?

 

[Vander Nars]

restricting it to fel will just reduce pvp and allow pvmers using vvv gear to bypass the risk of being in vvv. no one is gonna hang around brit fel gate for hours waiting for another random person to random walk thru brit gate, we get alot of random pvp because people are in vvv and go to luna to bank/house, the shard isnt big enough to force pvp into fel only without it just killing off alot of the random pvp. No one is being subjected to pvp if they do not wish, the people voting to force vvv back to fel are likely in 1 of 2 camps. pvmers looking to use vvv gear with zero risk or pvmers who just dont want pvpers having fun.

 

[Dan]

restricting it to fel will just reduce pvp and allow pvmers using vvv gear to bypass the risk of being in vvv. no one is gonna hang around brit fel gate for hours waiting for another random person to random walk thru brit gate, we get alot of random pvp because people are in vvv and go to luna to bank/house, the shard isnt big enough to force pvp into fel only without it just killing off alot of the random pvp. No one is being subjected to pvp if they do not wish, the people voting to force vvv back to fel are likely in 1 of 2 camps. pvmers looking to use vvv gear with zero risk or pvmers who just dont want pvpers having fun.

Just asking for feedback. Nothing is changing one way or another.

 

[Vander Nars]

Just asking for feedback. Nothing is changing one way or another.

I understand, im just explaining why I think changing it even in the possible future is a bad idea and I believe most people voting to restrict it to fel are voting in bad faith.

 

[Brosephine]

I voted "yes," but I'd like to clarify that I only think it should be restricted in areas where there are high concentrations of players and vendor malls (i.e. LUNA). PvP in Luna only creates more lag than what already exists being in the primary shopping center on the server. Luna might be the best place to pick fights, but FFS take it outside, boys.

 

[Vander Nars]

There is no high concentration of players on this shard, this shard doesn't have enough players to see the type of lag your talking about from too many players in a single area. Iv played on osi during its prime and I understand what lag looks like when u got 60+ people on a screen trying to pvp. Luna is laggy here for a completely different reason, its laggy when its barren of any players, the handful of people running around fighting isnt creating anymore lag. Also I honestly dont believe thats the reason you are against luna pvp, im pretty sure it has to do with you owning a house right out front of the gate and not wanting people running around it fighting.

 

[Brosephine]

There is no high concentration of players on this shard, this shard doesn't have enough players to see the type of lag your talking about from too many players in a single area. Iv played on osi during its prime and I understand what lag looks like when u got 60+ people on a screen trying to pvp. Luna is laggy here for a completely different reason, its laggy when its barren of any players, the handful of people running around fighting isnt creating anymore lag. Also I honestly dont believe thats the reason you are against luna pvp, im pretty sure it has to do with you owning a house right out front of the gate and not wanting people running around it fighting.

We can disagree.

 

[Dan]

This poll has been extended 30 days.

 

[Melek Taus]

There is no high concentration of players on this shard, this shard doesn't have enough players to see the type of lag your talking about from too many players in a single area. Iv played on osi during its prime and I understand what lag looks like when u got 60+ people on a screen trying to pvp. Luna is laggy here for a completely different reason, its laggy when its barren of any players, the handful of people running around fighting isnt creating anymore lag. Also I honestly dont believe thats the reason you are against luna pvp, im pretty sure it has to do with you owning a house right out front of the gate and not wanting people running around it fighting.

Why would she be against that if it is going to bring people around her house and possibly promote her vendors? And if she had some ulterior motive.. why would she post why she doesn't want it, rather than just vote and keep quiet?

 

[Omalley]

Why would she be against that if it is going to bring people around her house and possibly promote her vendors? And if she had some ulterior motive.. why would she post why she doesn't want it, rather than just vote and keep quiet?

He just needs to flex his PvP-ness

 

[Vander Nars]

Why would she be against that if it is going to bring people around her house and possibly promote her vendors? And if she had some ulterior motive.. why would she post why she doesn't want it, rather than just vote and keep quiet?

She is welcome to explain why she wants it removed but the bullshit lie that it causes lag is simply not true. Matter fact I wish most of the people who voted to restrict it would be open about why, cause im fucking certain it has everything to do with pvmers just wanting to limit the fun of pvpers and take advantage of the vvv gear with no risk of being attacked in tram setting.

 

[Brosephine]

She is welcome to explain why she wants it removed but the bullshit lie that it causes lag is simply not true. Matter fact I wish most of the people who voted to restrict it would be open about why, cause im fucking certain it has everything to do with pvmers just wanting to limit the fun of pvpers and take advantage of the vvv gear with no risk of being attacked in tram setting.

I have zero VvV gear.
I have a large vendor house inside the Luna walls and there IS additional lag whenever PvPers are fighting nearby.
I'm not sure why you seem hell-bent on calling me a liar. This is what I've experienced and the way I see it.
As I have also said before... we can disagree.

 

[Vander Nars]

I have zero VvV gear.
I have a large vendor house inside the Luna walls and there IS additional lag whenever PvPers are fighting nearby.
I'm not sure why you seem hell-bent on calling me a liar. This is what I've experienced and the way I see it.
As I have also said before... we can disagree.

First, I never said you had VvV gear. My comment about VvV gear wasnt target at you specifically, it was in general to the group thats voting to restrict VvV to fel. Not everyone in that group has the exact same reason for their vote, some of them is the VvV gear issue, some just don't want pvpers to enjoy the game, and there may be other reasons. Hence why iv welcome anyone to post their reason.

Now to the real topic on hand do you have any video proof that shows the difference in lag? Iv run across luna many times and the lag has always been the same regardless of who was there, if your saying that a small group of people is creating a significant increase in lag around luna than clearly there is something wrong as thats not a normal behavior. It would be worth reporting with some proof of your claim. I think we all can agree that luna is laggy, however there is no proof that a handful of people running around is causing a significant increase.

 

[Brosephine]

Now to the real topic on hand do you have any video proof that shows the difference in lag? Iv run across luna many times and the lag has always been the same regardless of who was there, if your saying that a small group of people is creating a significant increase in lag around luna than clearly there is something wrong as thats not a normal behavior. It would be worth reporting with some proof of your claim. I think we all can agree that luna is laggy, however there is no proof that a handful of people running around is causing a significant increase.

No, I don't sit in my Luna house and take videos of the PvP fights that take place outside. You can believe me or not. I don't care.

 

[Vander Nars]

No, I don't sit in my Luna house and take videos of the PvP fights that take place outside. You can believe me or not. I don't care.

So you cant prove your claim, sounds like you just making shit up to me.

 

[Brosephine]

So you cant prove your claim, sounds like you just making shit up to me.

K.

 

[Vander Nars]

K.

glad u agree.

 

[Brosephine]

glad u agree.

Interesting how you drew that conclusion from "K." I don't agree with you. I thought I made that pretty clear in the posts above? Reading comprehension, man. It'll get ya.